Another film put out by the tinfoil hat brigade. I can't believe theway some people nod and say how well this film was done, when it'sobvious that the people who say it was all a giant conspiracy are justliars. THEY ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH! They are the same folks whoclaim we didn't go to the moon, loonies that just HAVE to pretend theyknow something big and important, and can't stop talking about it. Ican't believe either the way IMDb lets people who obviously haven'tseen the film spew nonsense about everyone in the political spectrumthat they disagree with, even though it has nothing to do with the filmbeing reviewed. Well, I guess some people couldn't fill ten lines,otherwise. It's fashionable to knock whoever the current administrationis, and no, Dubya might not have been a very good President, but hewouldn't attack his own country
User: brad12d3First of all when you watch this or if you have already, then keep onething in mind, ... this film quite literally names countless people asbeing "in on it" or "having inside knowledge" including the FDNY (whorisked and sacrificed their lives that day) to a BBC News Stationbecause a reporter said the WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before itdid. For one thing, I seriously doubt our government would let aEuropean news station in on them being the mastermind behind the worstattack on US soil since Pearl Harbor. Seriously? Also, go watch thenews reports again, everyone was talking about the WTC7 coming downbecause the firefighters heard it groaning and it was fully engulfedand had a giant chunk taken out of it. The news station misunderstood"It will come down" for "It has come down", due to how many people thenews passed through on the way to the reporter. They also claim that noplane hit the pentagon and that it must have been a cruise missiledespite all the eye witnesses and a number of light post that wereknocked down, which could have only occurred if the missile did someserious zig zag maneuvering to hit them before striking the pentagon. Ithink a planes wingspan hitting them seems more logical. Go type in 911Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77 in youtube and you will get a very clearpicture of what happened. I could go on and on, but if you take sometime to research yourselves then it's not hard to find the facts.However, if you want a good place to go with a great presentation ofthe facts then you can visit http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4 . Itcontains several videos closely examining the different accusations andeven sheds some light on new information.
User: olivertothescott
The previous editions of Loose change that I had seen were crackpotnonsense. Some of their suggestions, like the idea of phone calls fromFlight 93 being fakes, would be laughable if only they hadn't been soinsensitive to the families of the soon to be victims.
I viewed this at a screening in a venue by the name of 'The Frontlineclub.' This edition of Loose Change is the best version I have seen.Several of the utterly absurd suggestions, that were presented asundoubted fact in the previous releases, are gone. The narration is farclassier as well.
However, the dishonesty seen in this 'documentary' is still utterlyreprehensible.
This film shows no pictures of the remains of flight 77 during theclear up operation and investigation and instead suggests the insaneidea of a military plane hitting the pentagon. It focuses on the poorvideos and pictures of the impact and prior to the impact and insiststhere isn't any clear evidence that flight 77 struck the pentagon. Butit ignores the flight 77 debris and most of the passenger's DNA thatwas found at the site of the pentagon.
The film suggests that the fireballs and compressed air getting ejectedfrom the towers as they collapsed were actually detonation blasts! Itdevotes a sizable portion of the film to Stepehn E. Jones, thephysicist and now retired professor who never and presents his theoryof the twin towers being brought down by controlled demolition ascompelling evidence. However it ignores that Jones's theory has beenmet with criticism by people who do have a background in buildingcollapse forensics and by Brigham Young University's (The universityMr. Jones served at) department of civil environmental and engineering.While it is true that chemicals of thermate were found in the dust,there were natural sources for these chemicals to come from. Thisdocumentary is incredibly biased in not dealing with questions raisedabout Stephen Jone's paper and ideas.
The coverage of WTC 7 was disgraceful! To suggest, as this film did,that there were just a few controllable fires in the building whileshowing footage of only the North face outrageous! While its true mostof the footage taken of WTC 7 was taken at the North side, there isfortunately some footage from the South side that shows the extent ofthe raging fires being hosed down by fireman, and not showing any letup. But unfortunately, none of this was shown.
If your looking for a good story and 90 minutes of entertainment, thenthis is fair enough. The music and editing were good, the narration waswell spoken and dramatic. But if you want an assessment of theconspiracy theories out there, I would suggest an impartial programthat doesn't deceitfully neglect footage that counters their agenda.
I've seen all the versions of the "Loose Change 9/11" and this isabsolutely the best one. It has the most facts, since more facts havebeen discovered since the first edition was released. The first editionof "Loose Change 9/11" was actually what made me interested about 9/11and made me dig into other literature about it. I've seen dozens ofvideos and read a lot of different articles/debates about it and thereis (of course) a lot of speculation and guessing involved. However somefacts remain: - Scientists have discovered nano-thermite in the dustfrom the worldtrade collapses. - 3 highrise, steel-reinforcedskyscrapers collapsed into their own footprint at near-freefall speed.
This should be more than enough to argue for a real (truthful)investigation, since these facts can not be explained by the pancaketheory.
Then on top of these facts, there are tons of other issues that arejust insane coincidences, eyewitneses and other questions that are notanswered by the official explanation.
And remember, you can't argue against the facts with questions like:"Yes, but thousands of people should have been involved and so manypeople can't keep a secret", since this is also just speculation.
Humans are an amazing species who can generate meaning and stretchreality to meet it. From anorexics who think they are too fat toholocaust deniers, people like coming up with unique versions of whatis real and "really" happened. Conspiracy theories are especiallydifficult to refute as their arguments are totalizing, looping back onthemselves. Attempts to dismiss them are rejected as further evidenceof a conspiracy. The more official and legitimate the source of theserefutations, the bigger the conspiracy.
Enter the 9/11 conspiracy theorists and Loose Change. This is a greatdocumentary, very well done and persuasive, that argues a vastconspiracy was behind the events on 9/11/2001. The film weaves togethera collection of meanings to paint its picture. These are collected fromvarious sources, a death by a thousand cuts of strange details,omissions, denials, and testimony from journalists, experts, officials,and observers.
Of course, I could point out that the documentary handpicks a few factsagainst the idea of a terror attack while omitting mountains ofevidence for it. I could also point out that such a conspiracy wouldinvolve hundreds of people coordinating it and keeping it a secret. Icould also point you toward the episode of NOVA, titled "Building onGround Zero," that explains the mechanisms of the building collapsepretty clearly. But all that does not matter because if you believe inthis, you will not be listening. In fact, you'll argue that I am notlistening to what "really" happened.
With Zero and Core of Corruption An American Coup is one of the bestfilms that debunks the official stories of what happen on 9/11. Putsthe lie to the "Official Story," which has changed in every major faceta multitude of times, so it must be spoken of in the plural. AmericanCoup retrieves from the memory hole the many eyewitness testimonieswhich contradict the official lies.
Contrary to the nonsense about how many people would have to beinvolved to cover up the truth the film explains howcompartmentalization is used in black ops. Facts are what matter andthe facts can not be explained away by denying it would be impossiblefor such a coup could take place. It did take place contrary tomisinformation from the accessories after the fact in the corporatemedia.
The movie points out that the Vietnam war was started by a lie.Ignorance is no excuse to deny the overwhelming evidence of governmentcomplicity in 9/11. Core of Corruption and Zero should be companionpieces as they dissect the many "coincidences" that cant be ignored byunfurling the shadow governments favorite phrase to pretend it's crimesdidn't happen, "conspiracy theory."
This film is very well made, and quite professionally edited.Considering the fact that the mainstream media in the US and the UKonly make debunking documentaries and refuse to even give the time ofday to the massive evidence that is out there, not theories, evidence;this is a welcome change. I am not saying that I believe everythingthat is suggested in this film, but I do believe that the point of thisfilm is to present you with the 'alternative' point of view thatmillions of people believe is the truth and to let you make your ownmind up. Freedom of speech and self expression are dirty words to someof these so called debunker's, who feel threatened by any point of viewthat deviates from the norm. They don't actually offer any additionalresearch or evidence to support their 'official' view that ourgovernments are insisting that we should believe, they just tow theline, simply repeating the same old lies that we've been told for thepast years. Films like this offer a tantalising alternative opinion towhat may have happened on 9/11 supported by the evidence of experts andfirst hand accounts. At the very least, we have not been told thecomplete truth about the events of of 9/11 and other terrorist acts andwars since then, and if they can lie about one little thing, who's tostop them from lying about everything? If you are one of those whobelieve everything that you are told by politicians, no mater what,then don't bother watching this film, you are a hopeless cause. If onthe other hand you're not certifiably insane, then watch this and makeyour own mind up, don't just listen to one point of view either, thereare many, many, many films and books out there that try to get at thetruth in spite of all the propaganda and bullying that they have toendure for exercising their right of free speech. Be the shepherd notthe sheep!
User: dougnoneyobusiness
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The writer/director/editor of this film has the narrator state at theend...something along the lines, and I'm paraphrasing since a friendhad the copy I saw and I cannot go back and watch or read them...butthe simple idea that "at this point in the film, you're either eitherthinking this is totally incredulous or this is all quite verypossible."
I have to say, as someone who has been on the scene of many planecrashes and is a pilot to boot, I find it quite plausible thatsomething else happened with possibly the two planes that hit thePentagon and "crashed" into the ground even at the speed involved inPennsylvania. As they note in the movie, there is no historicalprecedence for the absence of wreckage into the ground ever prior tothat day on 9-11. And I can tell you as a pilot since we all studyplane crashes, so as to not repeat the mistakes...this is actually afact.
Just typing this here makes me kind of paranoid, because people inpower...they are capable of the most heinous crimes against humanity.
I for one don't doubt for a single second, that men like former VP ofthe US Dick Cheney would happily expend a few thousand countrymen tofurther an agenda and line his pockets with gold. Bush didn't seem sosmart, but the rest of his family including Grandfather Prescott Bushor however it's spelled, it's historically known that he was part of agroup of fascists who offered Major General Smedley Butler $30 millionUS dollars to lead a fascist coup in 1934 against the then President ofthe United States.
The Congressmen he took this to actually believed him according to thefilm and web references and the President apparently made a deal withthe fascist group to keep himself in power and alive.
I believe power can be this corrupting and even today, we see inAmerica, an orchestrated effort to stop progress forward by PresidentObama, that has actually been proved to be orchestrated by the GOP andloud-mouthed operatives, tasked with coming out to town hall meetings,in the October 2009 Rolling stone magazine.
If you're a fan of Fox news, everything the left says is a conspiracytheory and the right-wingers in America are given a pass. Because theywould rather jump the gun and sensationalize everything, the truthoften never comes out and that's okay with them because Rupert Murdochactually can save money by playing the same garbage over and over andover and other big corporate owned media outlets have followed thisexample so we almost never see the truth about anything.
Example after example after example is given here to show how it quitepossibly was an inside job and if it were able to ever be tracked downand proved by the real patriots in America...like I don't believe verymany men and women out of the CIA or the FBI would give corporateAmerica a total pass on this, just like general after general aftergeneral retired from our military so they could speak out against theBush administration, without having to deal with the consequences ofmaking these statements while still in their own seats of power...thattells you something.
Not in most of our lifetimes had we seen this, but what these men in1934 were doing was treason, something we normally string people upfor...or imprison for the remainder of their natural lives.
Somebody weakened us and our intelligence operations by naming ValeriePlame as a covert operative in the last administration and it wasn'tall about Scooter Libby...I mean who wants to spy for a nation whichsells out its own agents for spite? Who? But this was treason andsomebody other than Libby, was never brought to justice.
This is great film and I predict hard to find, but you can order itonline and the purchase price even if it were a hundred bucks...itwould be well worth the price. Nothing is more priceless than the truthtoday and Americans are next to clueless as to everything in the worldtoday.
Even another documentary my pal had...something like "Outfoxed" whichis old news and obviously about Fox news, showed what a bunch of liarsand fabricators of the the truth the whole organization is...You cannotbelieve anything coming out of Newscorp.
Here they showed Bill O'Lielly as the left likes to call Mr Sextoy(Google the case against him by an intern he paid off for sexualharassment...makes Clinton look like nothing)reading viewer mail thatsaid something like "show a little respect and quit telling everyonewho disagrees with you to shut-up!" to which good old Bill the yarnspinner and liar extraordinaire (however it's spelled) claimed "I'veonly done that one time in six years" and then they played him doing itlike fifty times, once even at a public event. This guy has zero class.I cannot wait until the day, somebody puts this classless piece oftrash's head through a wall.I cannot wait. That day is coming...andpeople like him and Rush Limbaugh and all the rest of the GOP ownedoperatives will curse the day they were born. Hallelujah!
This movie is great food for thought and very worth your time...tenstars all the way.
Simply put, this is the best of the Loose Change permutations so far.All the facts are laid out in clear fashion, and the music soundtrackis thankfully more subdued and muted this time around. The narration byactor Daniel Sunjata is an improvement over director Dylan Avery'ssober but somewhat weak turn as narrator of the last Loose Changeentry.
All in all an impressive, polished presentation in terms of the lookand sound, but, more importantly, it gets most of the important factsout into the forefront.
Foremost amongst these facts are the findings of physicist Steven Jones- PhD, who discovered, along with his team of scientists,explosive/incendiary material in all of the samples of 9/11 dust theyhave acquired (over 20, from different sources, independent from oneanother) and how they have proved that this material is a form ofhighly powerful Nano Thermite which ignites at temperatures high enoughto cut through steel. This material is not Sulfur as one commentatorerroneously stated. It exists in the form of small chips - gray on oneside, red on the other - that ignite at around 430 degrees centigrade,and produce tiny spheres of molten iron of the exact same chemicalcomposition as molten iron produced as a by-product of ignitedThermite. Through a process termed "X-Ray Energy DispersiveSpectroscopy" it has been proved by Jones and his colleagues that themicroscopic particles comprising the bulk of the red part of the chipsare nano particles (1/1 thousandth the diameter of a human hair) ofiron oxide and elemental aluminum - the exact key ingredients of SuperThermite, or Nano Thermite. This is incendiary material that can bemade to be explosive when other elements such as Silicon and Carbon areadded, and both of those elements were also identified by Jones, et alas being intimately mixed in with the Iron Oxide and Aluminum. Theirfindings have yet to be adequately refuted by any officialinvestigative body. In fact, none of the four official investigations,including the last and "exhaustively carried out" investigation by theNational Institute of Standards and Technology even bothered to look atthe dust, nor did they even consider any hypothesis other than collapsedue to damage and fire, even though it is required by law to test forexplosives in any fire investigation. Some investigation.
So we have a material found in all the dust samples that consists ofthe exact ingredients of a known material that can cut through steel,that ignites at 430 degrees centigrade, and that produces molten ironspheres as a by-product just like Thermite, but it is not Thermite? Ifthis were not enough, we have pools of molten metal at the bases of allthree buildings six weeks after their collapse, and video showingmolten metal literally pouring out of the south tower beginning fiveminutes before it's collapse, and the molten metal looks absolutely andpositively like the molten iron produced by Thermite (go to YouTube andtype in "Thermite 9/11" to see for yourself). A fact totally ignored bydefenders of the official story is that the heat produced by the firesdid not exceed 800 degrees Fahrenheit, a temperature far too low toeven weaken steel let alone melt it. It seems that they never let thefacts get in the way of their faith in the official dogma.
Then there is the testimony of Housing Authority official BarryJennings, who along with another man by the name of Michael Hess werewitnesses to massive explosions inside WTC Seven before either towerhad collapsed. As if things were not suspicious enough, Jennings diedsuddenly last August, two days before the final NIST report on thecollapse of WTC Seven was released (NIST said it was due solely to fire- yeah, sure) - it goes on and on and on and on.
Attacks on this documentary, and the whole 9/11 "truth movement" ingeneral, are becoming increasingly ineffectual, indeed embarrassing inlight of what we now know.
Dylan Avery and everyone involved in this production are on the rightside of history and will be vindicated, in due time, along with allother unbelievers of the official story. Good for them.